hydboy77
06-10 07:42 PM
You are the first guy who wrote a sensible post regarding CIR. Most if not all people here are delusional when it comes to CIR. I don’t trust Obama and Durbin to do any justice for Eb immigrants. The democrats agenda was always the illegals, as far as we EB are concerned they would prefer that we just get kicked out through endless RFE harassment from USCIS. The fact is republicans don’t like non whites to immigrate to US and the democrats are color blind to most extent but they are class conscious, they like illegals and poor people to immigrate to US because they can control them whereas they cannot control and herd the EB immigrants. So when the negotiations for CIR start Republicans will oppose any immigration so the democrats will strike a bargain with the republicans where they will ask for amnesty for illegals and in return they will happily throw the EB community under the bus by saying they are "reforming" the US immigration system by introducing a points based system where even existing applicants like the EB folks who have been in US for the last 10+ years have to re apply in points based nonsense system. Before people get angry ask yourself this question
1. Was there a visa recapture in the last CIR (don’t confuse with the first CIR which was passed by Arlen Specter which was the best CIR, it had visa recapture, it had STEM exemption)
2. Did it have Stem exemption i.e. exempt people who earned a Master and PHD from American universities from yearly green card quota?
3. Did it eliminate country quota.
4. Did it at least give an amnesty\interim type green card deal to honest legal EB folks like they gave to illegals?
The unfortunate answer to all those is a "NO" and this was when the president was Bush a republican, now you have Obama as the president and Durbin as his right man in senate. Does anybody really expect Justice for EB from these two?
Having said this I am not saying lose hope and pack up your bags. We will all have to fight for our cause but don’t have unrealistic expectations from CIR. Our best bet is a non cir piece meal bill visa recapture bill that addresses EB issues seperate from CIR, it is difficult to get such a bill passed but the chances for such a bill are better then Obama-durbin cir
And yes. CIR....NO BODY knows the final form in which it will pass and what impact would it have on legal EB immigration....no way to tell. I have no basis to say this but this is just my personal opinion: For all of us on this forum going through immigration process; our best bet is to get something before CIR actually passes and comes in to the play....I do not have good feeling about CIR.
1. Was there a visa recapture in the last CIR (don’t confuse with the first CIR which was passed by Arlen Specter which was the best CIR, it had visa recapture, it had STEM exemption)
2. Did it have Stem exemption i.e. exempt people who earned a Master and PHD from American universities from yearly green card quota?
3. Did it eliminate country quota.
4. Did it at least give an amnesty\interim type green card deal to honest legal EB folks like they gave to illegals?
The unfortunate answer to all those is a "NO" and this was when the president was Bush a republican, now you have Obama as the president and Durbin as his right man in senate. Does anybody really expect Justice for EB from these two?
Having said this I am not saying lose hope and pack up your bags. We will all have to fight for our cause but don’t have unrealistic expectations from CIR. Our best bet is a non cir piece meal bill visa recapture bill that addresses EB issues seperate from CIR, it is difficult to get such a bill passed but the chances for such a bill are better then Obama-durbin cir
And yes. CIR....NO BODY knows the final form in which it will pass and what impact would it have on legal EB immigration....no way to tell. I have no basis to say this but this is just my personal opinion: For all of us on this forum going through immigration process; our best bet is to get something before CIR actually passes and comes in to the play....I do not have good feeling about CIR.
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InTheMoment
09-27 10:35 AM
good point about the H1 quota exempt option. Though remember there is no blanket exemption for doctors...their H1 is cap exempt only if they work for a non-profit institution/university. So it all depends on the employer.
i was in a similar situation about this with a priority date of Jan '06.. i was planning to get married in dec 2009.. but my dates were current and fearing that I might get my GC soon, I rushed to Australia (my fiancee is AUS citizen) and got a registered marriage done... she is still in aus and planning to join me later using following-to-join when i do get gc.. unfortunately, I did not get my GC when the dates were current in Aug or Sep...
but, i dont know how to advice you.. it is a very sticky situation... i think best option is to do H1B, and before that to try and get some visitor visa... my lawyer says there is a 50% chance for one to get H1B if you apply on April 1st.. and almost 0% chance if you apply after April 1st...
oooh another option that i thought out, during my stressful thinking days about this, was that the H1B quota is not valid for certain jobs.. like doctors, and also if you work in like non-profit orgs and stuff... try to explore that.. this means that ur wife can get H1B right away...
F1 is not an options, since you have to show non-immigrant intent.
i was in a similar situation about this with a priority date of Jan '06.. i was planning to get married in dec 2009.. but my dates were current and fearing that I might get my GC soon, I rushed to Australia (my fiancee is AUS citizen) and got a registered marriage done... she is still in aus and planning to join me later using following-to-join when i do get gc.. unfortunately, I did not get my GC when the dates were current in Aug or Sep...
but, i dont know how to advice you.. it is a very sticky situation... i think best option is to do H1B, and before that to try and get some visitor visa... my lawyer says there is a 50% chance for one to get H1B if you apply on April 1st.. and almost 0% chance if you apply after April 1st...
oooh another option that i thought out, during my stressful thinking days about this, was that the H1B quota is not valid for certain jobs.. like doctors, and also if you work in like non-profit orgs and stuff... try to explore that.. this means that ur wife can get H1B right away...
F1 is not an options, since you have to show non-immigrant intent.
Guig0
02-03 06:58 AM
now i�m ashaned coz i don�t have any vote at all :(
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02-10 02:50 PM
Some people prefer to be anonymous I suppose.
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ameerka_dream
05-11 02:32 PM
I sincere hope Dream act pass. Illegal kids suffer more. Our suffer less. Parents made mistake. Why they pay?
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kaisersose
05-29 07:22 PM
Xenophobia (fear of foreigners) has always been high in the US, though not always on the surface. Most probably we remind them of their own history of invading the native american's land, killing him and occupying his land.
Back in the 1850s, Ireland went through the great potato famine which killed millions. A number of survivors migrated to the US where they met with hostility from local Americans who were scared these foreigners would take away their jobs. This has been going on since 150 years and is not a recent development.
In 1997, unemployment in the US was zero and so no American felt threatened by foreign presence. The sun was shining, the birds were chirping and everything was hunky-dory for new immigrants. However, the situation is considerbly different today with increased outsourcing and brown desis seen everywhere in the US - especially in walmarts.
With all this, it is inevitable that an immigration reform that will put an end to all our woes is not going to happen. However, we can try our best and hopefully expect at least some reprieve in the forthcoming revamp. If not, then we have Bangalore, Hyderabad and Noida where we do not have to spend an average of 2 hours everyday brooding over immigration issues.
Back in the 1850s, Ireland went through the great potato famine which killed millions. A number of survivors migrated to the US where they met with hostility from local Americans who were scared these foreigners would take away their jobs. This has been going on since 150 years and is not a recent development.
In 1997, unemployment in the US was zero and so no American felt threatened by foreign presence. The sun was shining, the birds were chirping and everything was hunky-dory for new immigrants. However, the situation is considerbly different today with increased outsourcing and brown desis seen everywhere in the US - especially in walmarts.
With all this, it is inevitable that an immigration reform that will put an end to all our woes is not going to happen. However, we can try our best and hopefully expect at least some reprieve in the forthcoming revamp. If not, then we have Bangalore, Hyderabad and Noida where we do not have to spend an average of 2 hours everyday brooding over immigration issues.
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pappu
04-21 12:44 PM
Here is some analysis from Immigration Policy Center
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How Much Will Arizona's Immigration Bill (SB1070) Cost?
April 21, 2010
Washington, D.C.- Frustrated by Congress' failure to pass comprehensive immigration reform, states across the country continue considering legislation that relies heavily on punitive, enforcement-only measures which not only fail to end unauthorized immigration but also have the potential to dig their state's finances deeper into a hole. The latest example of this kind of policy nose dive is in Arizona. A recent bill, "Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act" (SB 1070), was passed by the Arizona State legislature and awaits the signature of Arizona Governor Jan Brewer. As the Governor ponders whether or not to put her signature on SB 1070, she should consider the potential economic impact of the bill, which would require police to check a person's immigration status if they suspect that person is in the United States illegally. This bill, if it becomes law, will likely affect not only unauthorized immigrants, but all immigrants and Latinos in general. Given the vital role that immigrants and Latinos play in Arizona's economy, and considering Arizona's current budget deficit of $3 billion dollars, enacting SB 1070 could be a perilous move.
At a purely administrative level, Gov. Brewer should take into consideration the potential costs of implementation and defending the state against lawsuits. As the National Employment Law Project (NELP) points out in the case of other states that have passed harsh local immigration laws, Arizona would probably face a costly slew of lawsuits on behalf of legal immigrants and native-born Latinos who feel they have been unjustly targeted. This is in addition to the cost of implementation. For instance, NELP observes that "in Riverside, New Jersey, the town of 8,000 had already spent $82,000 in legal fees defending its ordinance" by the time it was rescinded in September, 2007. Also in 2007, the county supervisors in Prince William County, Maryland were unwilling to move forward with the police enforcement portion of an immigration law after they found that the price tag would be a minimum of $14 million for five years.
More broadly, Gov. Brewer should keep in mind that, if significant numbers of immigrants and Latinos are actually persuaded to leave the state because of this new law, they will take their tax dollars, businesses, and purchasing power with them. The University of Arizona's Udall Center for Studies in Public Policy estimates that the total economic output attributable to Arizona's immigrant workers was $44 billion in 2004, which sustained roughly 400,000 full-time jobs. Furthermore, over 35,000 businesses in Arizona are Latino-owned and had sales and receipts of $4.3 billion and employed 39,363 people in 2002 - the last year for which data is available. The Perryman Group also estimates that if all unauthorized immigrants were removed from Arizona, the state would lose $26.4 billion in economic activity, $11.7 billion in gross state product, and approximately 140,324 jobs, even accounting for adequate market adjustment time. Putting economic contributions of this magnitude at risk during a time of recession would not serve Arizona well.
With Arizona facing a budget deficit of more than $3 billion, Gov. Brewer might want to think twice about measures such as SB 1070 that would further imperil the state's economic future and try instead to find ways in which she can bring additional tax revenue to her state while pursuing smart enforcement that will actually protect Arizonans.
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How Much Will Arizona's Immigration Bill (SB1070) Cost?
April 21, 2010
Washington, D.C.- Frustrated by Congress' failure to pass comprehensive immigration reform, states across the country continue considering legislation that relies heavily on punitive, enforcement-only measures which not only fail to end unauthorized immigration but also have the potential to dig their state's finances deeper into a hole. The latest example of this kind of policy nose dive is in Arizona. A recent bill, "Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act" (SB 1070), was passed by the Arizona State legislature and awaits the signature of Arizona Governor Jan Brewer. As the Governor ponders whether or not to put her signature on SB 1070, she should consider the potential economic impact of the bill, which would require police to check a person's immigration status if they suspect that person is in the United States illegally. This bill, if it becomes law, will likely affect not only unauthorized immigrants, but all immigrants and Latinos in general. Given the vital role that immigrants and Latinos play in Arizona's economy, and considering Arizona's current budget deficit of $3 billion dollars, enacting SB 1070 could be a perilous move.
At a purely administrative level, Gov. Brewer should take into consideration the potential costs of implementation and defending the state against lawsuits. As the National Employment Law Project (NELP) points out in the case of other states that have passed harsh local immigration laws, Arizona would probably face a costly slew of lawsuits on behalf of legal immigrants and native-born Latinos who feel they have been unjustly targeted. This is in addition to the cost of implementation. For instance, NELP observes that "in Riverside, New Jersey, the town of 8,000 had already spent $82,000 in legal fees defending its ordinance" by the time it was rescinded in September, 2007. Also in 2007, the county supervisors in Prince William County, Maryland were unwilling to move forward with the police enforcement portion of an immigration law after they found that the price tag would be a minimum of $14 million for five years.
More broadly, Gov. Brewer should keep in mind that, if significant numbers of immigrants and Latinos are actually persuaded to leave the state because of this new law, they will take their tax dollars, businesses, and purchasing power with them. The University of Arizona's Udall Center for Studies in Public Policy estimates that the total economic output attributable to Arizona's immigrant workers was $44 billion in 2004, which sustained roughly 400,000 full-time jobs. Furthermore, over 35,000 businesses in Arizona are Latino-owned and had sales and receipts of $4.3 billion and employed 39,363 people in 2002 - the last year for which data is available. The Perryman Group also estimates that if all unauthorized immigrants were removed from Arizona, the state would lose $26.4 billion in economic activity, $11.7 billion in gross state product, and approximately 140,324 jobs, even accounting for adequate market adjustment time. Putting economic contributions of this magnitude at risk during a time of recession would not serve Arizona well.
With Arizona facing a budget deficit of more than $3 billion, Gov. Brewer might want to think twice about measures such as SB 1070 that would further imperil the state's economic future and try instead to find ways in which she can bring additional tax revenue to her state while pursuing smart enforcement that will actually protect Arizonans.
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manupushye
02-02 11:07 PM
Contact him. he is Texas Senator & very prompt in his replies and quick followup with USCIS.
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05-30 12:37 AM
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08-31 08:41 PM
I cant seem to open the article. Are others having the same problem?
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boreal
10-28 08:57 PM
oh God! all of you self-righteous prigs! get a life and give this person a break. He didnt like something, so came out and expressed it, and very politely, i might add. If all you want to do is show the world how pompous your ego is, then go do it somewhere else..enough already!! If someone expresses something, dont take it personal and start responding as if he directed his comments at you!
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abracadabra102
08-10 12:24 PM
Perm filers hate LS guys as they went ahead of line...
Backlog guys hate Perm filers as they went ahead of line...
Eb3 guys hate EB3-EB2 conversion guys as they went ahead of line...
....and it goes on.
This shit never ends!!!:(
Strangely, everything is done within the scope of law!
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Backlog guys hate Perm filers as they went ahead of line...
Eb3 guys hate EB3-EB2 conversion guys as they went ahead of line...
....and it goes on.
This shit never ends!!!:(
Strangely, everything is done within the scope of law!
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willwin
02-20 01:33 PM
As everyone knows that AOS for those who already in US and CP is for those who are outside US (theoretically). It is a personal choice for a person in US to file either 485 or opt for CP. The reason for CP was a popular choice due to 485 processing delay between 2001 and 2005. Between 2001 and 2004 all EB categories were current for all countries. No one heard of term retrogression in that period. No one was worried about EB2 or EB3. However due to severe processing delay (partially due to increased security check due to 911) in 485 applications during that period, it was taking about 2 years for 485 approvals. During those entire 2 year period visa numbers were current and did not fluctuate as it is happening now. Therefore people opted to go for CP, as US consulates in abroad were not busy. They scheduled the interview right away as PD was current for all categories, during that 5 year period. That�s why CP was popular choice that period. Now, in the retrogression climate and continuous fluctuation in PD (back and forth movement), opting CP is a blunder mistake. Furthermore, now (at least before July 2007 fiasco) 485 approvals are so fast. If PD was current, USCIS was approving 485 with in 2 months before July 07. Therefore one should not even think about CP, if already in US unless if you are in EB1 or EB2-ROW category. Therefore 485 is the only option available to enjoy subsidiary benefits like EAD/AP/AC21. If any one already filed CP, to switch back to AOS they must wait till visa number available to their PD again. It will be a long road, and it complicates. As already mentioned, there is no technical ground to award EAD/AP for CP persons if already in US. If IV goes and talk to USCIS, they will laugh. To achieve same result, one can lobby for administrative fix like awarding EAD/AP for a person whose 140 was approved and legally present in the US in a valid non-immigrant status. This may be possible.
Ramba, I agree with you for the most part.
Well, there are CP filers with PD as back as 2003 (not sure if there are any 2001/2002 filers left) and these people were not aware that in July 2007, DOS/USCIS would open the flood gates and put them in this plight.
Imagine this, if DOS/USCIS had not made the PD current for everyone during 2007, what do you think the 485 filers would be doing now? They would have had approved I140 or they would have filed one, but what more? Will be just waiting for PD to become current. When it becomes current (say after 2 years), the actual processes (of going through name check, USCIS delay, FP etc) start and may take atleast a year going forward. But, when PD becomes current, guys in CP queue would get their interview.
So, it wasn't that CP guys knew this before and still made a mistake - back in 2003!
Otherwise, I agree, with this unpredictable movement of PD back and forth, 485 would be a safer route with all the changes happening to 485 processes (faster name check, proposed EAD for 3 years etc).
Your post was highly diplomatic than most of your queue-mates. Appreciate that.
Ramba, I agree with you for the most part.
Well, there are CP filers with PD as back as 2003 (not sure if there are any 2001/2002 filers left) and these people were not aware that in July 2007, DOS/USCIS would open the flood gates and put them in this plight.
Imagine this, if DOS/USCIS had not made the PD current for everyone during 2007, what do you think the 485 filers would be doing now? They would have had approved I140 or they would have filed one, but what more? Will be just waiting for PD to become current. When it becomes current (say after 2 years), the actual processes (of going through name check, USCIS delay, FP etc) start and may take atleast a year going forward. But, when PD becomes current, guys in CP queue would get their interview.
So, it wasn't that CP guys knew this before and still made a mistake - back in 2003!
Otherwise, I agree, with this unpredictable movement of PD back and forth, 485 would be a safer route with all the changes happening to 485 processes (faster name check, proposed EAD for 3 years etc).
Your post was highly diplomatic than most of your queue-mates. Appreciate that.
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illinois_alum
07-24 02:40 PM
NSC: E-Filed June 02
Document Send: June 02
FP Done: June 26
PD Will be current in Aug. Namecheck cleared since Nov 2007.
How do you know your namecheck has been cleared since Nov 2007?
Document Send: June 02
FP Done: June 26
PD Will be current in Aug. Namecheck cleared since Nov 2007.
How do you know your namecheck has been cleared since Nov 2007?
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Winner
06-17 11:01 AM
My wife had to go to Canada to get her H1B revalidated before she travelled to India. At that time, we could get an appointment in Chennai consulate only after two months, but she had to travel sooner than that. We had to spend around $1500 for airfare/lodging and other expenses to just to get the stamping.
Also, the lost wages for 3 days.
If this process is really beneficial to USA in terms of security etc, we certainly have to do this, but I don�t see why the same procedure can be done inside USA instead of travelling to a foreign country.
Also, the lost wages for 3 days.
If this process is really beneficial to USA in terms of security etc, we certainly have to do this, but I don�t see why the same procedure can be done inside USA instead of travelling to a foreign country.
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gclabor07
12-01 12:21 PM
Pappu,
Thanks for the great analysis. One suggestion for USCIS. They need to make EB GC process a linear one, meaning that you file for labor, then I-140, and I-485 as soon as your first two stages are cleared. Concurrent filing process is a hit or miss. It doesn't make sense anymore when you've so much retrogression.
This linear approach will be good for USCIS for two reasons:
1. They will get constant flow of applications rather than all at once. Plus they can control it by regulating the flow of I-140 approvals.
2. They will be able to better predict the visa movement based on their inventory.
For people like me, it will be good for two reasons:
1. I'll enjoy similar EAD/AP benefits that most of the people enjoy who filed during July 07.
2. No more H1B stamping.
Thanks.
Thanks for the great analysis. One suggestion for USCIS. They need to make EB GC process a linear one, meaning that you file for labor, then I-140, and I-485 as soon as your first two stages are cleared. Concurrent filing process is a hit or miss. It doesn't make sense anymore when you've so much retrogression.
This linear approach will be good for USCIS for two reasons:
1. They will get constant flow of applications rather than all at once. Plus they can control it by regulating the flow of I-140 approvals.
2. They will be able to better predict the visa movement based on their inventory.
For people like me, it will be good for two reasons:
1. I'll enjoy similar EAD/AP benefits that most of the people enjoy who filed during July 07.
2. No more H1B stamping.
Thanks.
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mallu
02-20 04:46 PM
Can anybody estimate out of the 47000 identified cases that is affected by Name Check...
How many are real old PD's like
Prior to 2003
Between 2003 and 2005
Between 2005 and 2007
India / China / Mexico / ROW
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How many are real old PD's like
Prior to 2003
Between 2003 and 2005
Between 2005 and 2007
India / China / Mexico / ROW
.
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easygoer
12-03 11:52 AM
I'm certain you cannot do that. While applying for H1B Visa, you can use experience in lieu of education, but while Perm/I140, they consider only 1 degree. Either its Masters or its Bachelors...even both of them are not considered as aggregates.
If your attorney is planning that way, he may not have handled such cases before... :eek:
You cannot substitute degree with experience while applying for Perm/I140.
WhiteStallion is right. I received ref on my EB2 due to combination of degrees. However, once filed with single degree as Master's it was approved
If your attorney is planning that way, he may not have handled such cases before... :eek:
You cannot substitute degree with experience while applying for Perm/I140.
WhiteStallion is right. I received ref on my EB2 due to combination of degrees. However, once filed with single degree as Master's it was approved
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prem_goel
05-29 09:44 PM
Guys, along with the vote, it'll help if you post some comments too! You may have to register but its a 2 min process. I am hoping this gets seen by the people in .org.
mbawa2574
07-10 09:13 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fx--jNQYNgA
Let's send as many letters to CNN and get his ass fired.
Let's send as many letters to CNN and get his ass fired.
gc_check
10-27 09:04 AM
Well, what is the point in saying it now, he should have said it in the 90s and early 2000 when industry was booming and people found a career path in coming to the US.
Right now, so much work is outsourced and it is continuing. Very difficult to get a IT job in US on h1b and IT consulting on h1b also facing so many hurdles. For any new immigrant on a software job who wants to get a h1b visa and green card - it is not an easy task.
From from the article. "On wooing back Indian talent, Murthy said there was no need to increase their salaries by 50 times to ensure this. But their lives could be made easier by providing schools, making sure that power condition and commuting is reasonably all right " Looks like he wants to still have the "less expensive" advantage over non-Indian companies / competition and he just wants more and easy H1B's and does not like the path to permanent residency and eventually citizenship and integrating with the American society - which is what American immigration is for. Just need the $$$. Though there are many good to learn from this company and this man, I do disagree with his views when it comes to immigration to USA.
Right now, so much work is outsourced and it is continuing. Very difficult to get a IT job in US on h1b and IT consulting on h1b also facing so many hurdles. For any new immigrant on a software job who wants to get a h1b visa and green card - it is not an easy task.
From from the article. "On wooing back Indian talent, Murthy said there was no need to increase their salaries by 50 times to ensure this. But their lives could be made easier by providing schools, making sure that power condition and commuting is reasonably all right " Looks like he wants to still have the "less expensive" advantage over non-Indian companies / competition and he just wants more and easy H1B's and does not like the path to permanent residency and eventually citizenship and integrating with the American society - which is what American immigration is for. Just need the $$$. Though there are many good to learn from this company and this man, I do disagree with his views when it comes to immigration to USA.
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